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Kiss: Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley (vocals, guitar); Gene Simmons (vocals, bass); Eric Carr (drums). Additional personnel: Robert Christie, Anthony Parr, Christopher Makepeace, The American Symphony Orchestra, St. Robert's Choir. Engineers include: Brian Christian, Rick Hart, Robert "Ringo" Hryeyna. Includes liner notes by Robert V. Conte. Composer: Kiss. Personnel: Ace Frehley, Paul Stanley (vocals, guitar); Eric Carr (vocals, drums); Gene Simmons (vocals). Audio Remasterer: Joseph M. Palmaccio. Liner Note Author: Yasuhito Kitai. Recording information: A&R Studios, New York, NY; Ace In The Hole Studios; Ezrin Farms, King, Ontario, Canada With Record Plant St; Record Plant Studios, New York, NY; Sounds Interchange Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Ensemble: American Symphony Orchestra. Photographer: David Spindel. Unknown Contributor Roles: Antony Parr; Kuni Takeuchi; Robert Christie. By the end of 1980, Kiss knew that their next album had to be a strong one -- a glorious return to hard rock à la their classic Destroyer. New drummer Eric Carr had refueled the band's desire to rock, and the quartet began working on a straight-ahead rock album in early 1981. Midway through, the band felt that they were rewriting past songs, and the sessions were aborted. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley then came up with the idea of recording a concept album, based on a mythical original story by Simmons. Destroyer producer Bob Ezrin was back and encouraged the band's concept-album idea (against both Ace Frehley's and Carr's wishes). Simmons and Stanley had high hopes for Music from "The Elder" (such as a movie, an elaborate tour, a follow-up record, etc.), but it completely bombed upon release. The reason? The music is totally uncharacteristic of Kiss -- it resembles heavy prog rock for the most part. Some of the songs could have been classics if the pompous and/or hard-to-decipher lyrics were replaced, such as "The Oath," "Only You," "I," and "Just a Boy." Only two tracks resemble the Kiss of old (Frehley's "Dark Light" and the instrumental "Escape from the Island"), while the rest is downright embarrassing ("Odyssey," "A World Without Heroes," "Under the Rose"). Music from "The Elder" was the final straw for Frehley, who would leave the band in 1982. ~ Greg Prato On Music from the Elder, the first album the band recorded with Eric Carr, Kiss reworked their trashy metal aesthetic into a more ambitious and pretentious variation on hard rock. Recorded with an orchestra and a choir, the record sounded like nothing else in the band's catalog. While Kiss' desire to change musical directions was admirable, the stilted results aren't successful -- in fact, they're frequently embarrassing. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine Taking a dip in sales with their previous effort UNMASKED, Kiss decided to deliver a more hard-driving rock album and enlisted the aid of Bob Ezrin, the man who produced DESTROYER (their most successful studio album). Upon his hiring, Ezrin discarded the heavy rock demos Kiss had recorded and suggested the band experiment with a concept album, a Kissified version of THE WALL. Disgruntled at the band's new direction, Ace Frehley only contributed one track, "Dark Light" (featuring a blistering solo), and aside from basic tracks, the rest of the record was completed without him. THE ELDER is a creative left turn for the band. Kiss brought in co-writers Tony Powers ("Odyssey", "The Oath") and Lou Reed ("Dark Light", "A World Without Heroes", "Mr. Blackwell") to contribute to this epic fantasy, and the result is some magnificent music. The American Symphony Orchestra is heard throughout the album, adding to the grand scale. The finale, "I" is a powerful ode to self-esteem, sung convincingly by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley. THE ELDER is a highly underrated Kiss album that showed the band's depth and ability to branch out in different musical directions. Music From The Elder Music Kiss Music From The Elder Songs Music From The Elder Music Music From The Elder Music Review Average Rating: (4.5 out of 5 stars)    List All Reviews Classic, epiphanous and just damn good! Make-up. No make-up. Commercial success or bust? This has been the basic KISS album review over the years. However, 'The Elder' marks new territory essential for every major band: a chance to conceptualize and have fun - and KISS does in spades here. Set-up as a medieveal coming-of-age boy-to-man story meets sword-and-the-sorcerer, the feel of this rock opera still holds up today (Lord of the Rings, 300, etc.). I owned the original vinyl, but the restored CD version's tracks are chronologically organized to better serve the tale. It could, dare I say, be done into an actual live prodcution or even film, and although it's not as extensive as, say Pink Floyd's 'The Wall,' it is a standout in Kiss's career, and cetainly the hard rock category in the 80's. Submitted by renesworld (San Francisco, CA, USA) Was This Review Helpful? Yes No 1 of 1 found this helpful.
Lost Classic from the Vaults! Surprisingly enough, Kiss unleashes some hidden talent on this CD....... A long time coming & well worth the wait! Many considered this a total disaster for the Heavy Metal Gods but it really shows the depth of the bands talents ....... when do we get to hear the next surprise from this Super Group? Submitted by ob1kinobee (Whistler, B.C., Canada)  Was This Review Helpful? Yes No
A beautiful and rockin' KISS rock opera. By this time in KISS's career, things were not going so well. Their last two albums really began alienating a lot of their long-time fans, including myself. Heck, I didn't even hear The Elder until almost twenty years after it's release. When it first came out back in the early eighties, I was too involved in giving other bands a try. I was not interested in getting burned again by another lame KISS album. Boy, did I ever eventually find out how wrong I was once I actually got around to listening to this great concept album! The album rocks pretty damn good throughout it's run, and it features many standout tracks such as Only You, Under The Rose, Dark Light, A World Without Heroes, The Oath, Mr. Blackwell, and I. In fact, the entire album is great from beginning to end. The only complaint I can give it is that it is too short. I want to hear more! It really should have been a double disc set like Judas Priest's recent and excellent Nostradamus themed concept album. KISS, you really outdid yourselves in every way with this awesome and touching concept album and I salute you. Submitted by Dan Walimaa (Detroit Rock City, Michigan) Was This Review Helpful? Yes No
jesus To me, this album is a perfect integration of a classic orchestra with rock that kiss couldn't achive in alive 4. Sounds so good that reminds me when guns 'n roses made "use your ilussion".
In this album, you'll aware that some musicians (like kiss) are much more talented than the average of noisy trash. This is why some become leyends. Enjoy it.
As a personal note: I sent odissey's lyrics as a poem to a girl who later became my wife. She loved it but she never knew it wasn't a poem. Submitted by jesusenmochis (México) Was This Review Helpful? Yes No
mostly good, a few bad songs The only reason this CD is overlooked so badly is because it strays away from the typical "KISS" sound, it was originally made for a movie, but the movie never came out, and it ended up being some wierd album called music from "The Elder", a movie that didn't even exist. But unfortunately people are missing put on a pretty good album, the album is worth buying, because of the great tunes such as "Only You", "Under The Rose", "Dark Light", "A World Without Heroes", "The Oath", "Mr. Blackwell", "Escape From The Island", and "I". "Just a Boy" and "Odyssey" are the only tracks on the album that really aren't anything special. But overall I found this to be a surprisingly good album, many people are missing out on some good KISS tunes. Submitted by gregbailey (Des Moines) Was This Review Helpful? Yes No
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