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Personnel: John Surman (soprano saxophone, baritone saxophone); John Surman; Mike Osborne (alto saxophone); Brian Odgers (electric bass, bass guitar); John Taylor (electric piano); John Marshall (drums).
Liner Note Author: John Surman.
Recording information: Tangerine Studios, London, England (10/07/1969).
In October 1969, John Surman left his native England to join bassist Barre Phillips and drummer Stu Martin in a new group in Belgium. Right before he left, he appeared at a recorded jam session in England. The tapes were then lost until 2003 and made their first appearance on record on this 2005 CD. The music is particularly interesting for two reasons. Surman, who is best known for his baritone playing, is mostly heard on soprano. And the performances are reminiscent of a slightly more accessible and gentler version of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew, although the Davis set was just in the process of being released. These renditions show that some jazz musicians in the United Kingdom were going through a parallel evolution as their American counterparts. Surman is showcased with the rhythm section during the four-part "Way Back When," and the ensemble is joined by altoist Mike Osborne on the final two selections. This is an important set in the history of fusion, showing that not only the biggest names were exploring the new music in 1969. ~ Scott YanowJazzTimes (p.106) - "[Surman] sticks largely to the soprano horn and claims most of the solo space with his swirling, extended lines."
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Category Rock/Pop Albums, Jazz CDs, Jazz Instrument, Classics (Silents / Avant Garde), Reed
Label Cuneiform
Orig Year 2005
All Time Sales Rank   55537  
CD Universe Part number 6863625
Discs 1
Release Date May 10, 2005
Studio/Live Studio
Mono/Stereo Stereo
Engineer Robin Sylvester
Personnel Brian Odgers - electric bass, bass guitar
John Surman - soprano saxophone, baritone saxophone
Mike Osborne - alto saxophone

Also: John Taylor, John Taylor, John Marshall, John Marshall
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1.Way Back When, Pt. 1 - (previously unreleased)
2.Way Back When, Pt. 2 - (previously unreleased)
3.Way Back When, Pt. 3 - (previously unreleased)
4.Way Back When, Pt. 4 - (previously unreleased)
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Average Rating: (4 out of 5 stars) 4 stars

4 stars An unasssumed gem
At first listen it didn't do much for me, however the second time around revealed a work of greater depth. True the first 4 cuts are the melody of Where Fortune Smiles, however the four part segment improves on the original Where Fortune Smiles release, discarding wanton avant jamming for something a bit less rushed. The improvisations are of a high caliber, and given a blind fold test one would swear it's mid seventies Soft Machine. In fact John Marshall is the drummer and the resemblance of keyboardist John Taylor to Mike Ratledge is uncanny. A great release obviously collecting dust in the vaults through the ages. And what about bassist Brian Odges? A tour de force indeed.
Submitted by soundman106 (Portland Oregon) Verified Buyer
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4 stars Evolutionary British Jazz-Rock
John Surman and his musical companions on this long-lost recording push the boundaries of British and European jazz into the type of territory that would define the genre into the early-mid 1970s. Bands that dominated this trend include Soft Machine and Nucleus, and the various offshoots of these (Hugh Hopper, Elton Dean, et al). Surman went on to different directions but not before leaving his imprimatur on Euro-jazz, all evident on this recording: primal energy channeled into haunting melodic themes and sophisticated solos. A must-have for fans of formative British and Euro-jazz.
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